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Moving On: Deciding Whether to Say Goodbye to GEM - S4 E11

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Three leading women on staying, going, and exploring within 

This episode explores the difficult decision many GEM professionals are facing – staying in your role, transitioning to another role in GEM, shifting to other roles in higher education, or leaving the field entirely. Listen in as we dive into the different job transitions of three prominent women in our field and explore advice for our own career decisions and strategies for retaining our staff.

The discussion features Jillian Baer, Solutions Consultant for Liaison International and former GEMer at The Ohio State University; Judy Baker, Research Associate in University Advancement at Niagara University and former GEMer at Nazareth University; and Julie Deland, Director of Administration for the Department of Health Policy and Management at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. The conversation originally aired live in August 2022 as part of the leadership edition of The Exchange Live, a monthly NAGAP webinar series. 

This episode of The NAGAP Report was hosted, produced, and edited by Marcus Hanscom. 

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